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by Nacon
Sun Jan 05, 2014 7:17 am
Forum: New World
Topic: TWO FRAGMENTS OF A CHOCTAW IMPACT TRADITION
Replies: 21
Views: 15812

Re: TWO FRAGMENTS OF A CHOCTAW IMPACT TRADITION

Hi nacom - Hard data rules - if Glacial Lake Aggasiz did not drain due to an ice impact ca 10,850 BCE, then I will have to look for another explanation for the Choctaw tradition. I do not have access to JSTOR through an academic account. Generally, I trade books with other researchers. Hi EP, Below...
by Nacon
Wed Jan 01, 2014 4:42 pm
Forum: New World
Topic: TWO FRAGMENTS OF A CHOCTAW IMPACT TRADITION
Replies: 21
Views: 15812

Re: TWO FRAGMENTS OF A CHOCTAW IMPACT TRADITION

Hi nacom - Thanks for your assistance. With any kind of luck I hope to get through those references before my return to the south. I hope to be able to document a nice ice impact before then as well, time and money permitting. It is not as though I am at Oxford or Cambridge and can just ask a libra...
by Nacon
Sun Dec 29, 2013 3:37 pm
Forum: New World
Topic: TWO FRAGMENTS OF A CHOCTAW IMPACT TRADITION
Replies: 21
Views: 15812

Re: TWO FRAGMENTS OF A CHOCTAW IMPACT TRADITION

Hi Nacom - Thanks for any help you can bring. The object here is to determine the impact rate: what hit, and when. Hard data rules; soft data may lead to hard data, and given the extreme resource constraints on that search, its use is necessary. I have extensive experience with Bronze Age myth mate...
by Nacon
Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:29 pm
Forum: New World
Topic: TWO FRAGMENTS OF A CHOCTAW IMPACT TRADITION
Replies: 21
Views: 15812

Re: TWO FRAGMENTS OF A CHOCTAW IMPACT TRADITION

Hi nacom - There were drainages of Glacial Lake Agassiz ca 13,000 BP and ca 10,000 BP: http://books.google.com/books?id=mj-hgKfzIzsC&pg=PA42&lpg=PA42&dq=Mississippi+River+13,000+BP+drainage&source=bl&ots=9cTG8_iABZ&sig=ojYWkswuZrEqvuTlEilpb1DT6e0&hl=en&sa=X&ei=aMWwUvmLGtLOyAHvrYDADA&ved=0CDoQ6AEwAw...
by Nacon
Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:38 pm
Forum: New World
Topic: TWO FRAGMENTS OF A CHOCTAW IMPACT TRADITION
Replies: 21
Views: 15812

Re: TWO FRAGMENTS OF A CHOCTAW IMPACT TRADITION

If you would like to know what actually occurred, read/re-read and study well, all the links posted on the two discussions of mine on this forum. Given that you long ago demonstrated that you have precisely zero understanding of the topics at hand, there would be little purpose in reviewing matters...
by Nacon
Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:30 pm
Forum: New World
Topic: TWO FRAGMENTS OF A CHOCTAW IMPACT TRADITION
Replies: 21
Views: 15812

Re: TWO FRAGMENTS OF A CHOCTAW IMPACT TRADITION

Hi nacom - I am very careful in using Native oral materials. As far as the Choctaw go, you need to remember that unlike the Creek and Chickasaw, the Choctaw assimilated existing "Mississippian" populations as divisions within their nation. Either there is a flow from an ice impact ca. 10,850 BCE, o...
by Nacon
Fri Dec 13, 2013 6:02 pm
Forum: New World
Topic: TWO FRAGMENTS OF A CHOCTAW IMPACT TRADITION
Replies: 21
Views: 15812

Re: TWO FRAGMENTS OF A CHOCTAW IMPACT TRADITION

TWO FRAGMENTS OF A CHOCTAW IMPACT TRADITION The traditions of the Choctaws concerning the Oka Falama [the Returned waters] is as follows: FRAGMENT 1 ... FRAGMENT 2 ... These Fragments Preserved by H. B. CUSHMAN, in HISTORY OF THE CHOCTAW, CHICASAW and NATCHEZ INDIANS HEADLIGHT PRINTING HOUSE, GREEN...
by Nacon
Sun Jul 21, 2013 3:52 pm
Forum: New World
Topic: Hueyatlaco: Anomolies and Orthodoxy
Replies: 42
Views: 17810

Re: Hueyatlaco: Anomolies and Orthodoxy

It seems that every time I think I'm being clear, it turns out that I'm not. In this case, you've pointed out that such tools date, in North America, from the Paleo era on. And in Europe, from at least the earliest Aurignacian . Rather than rely on memory (and trusting Wiki -- in this case), the Au...
by Nacon
Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:58 pm
Forum: New World
Topic: Hueyatlaco: Anomolies and Orthodoxy
Replies: 42
Views: 17810

Re: Hueyatlaco: Anomolies and Orthodoxy

Thank You. It is. I've much less familiarity with the people's work from the eastern side of the pond than I wish I had. But within the limits of available time and $$, I do what I can while keeping up with developments on this end. Thus, you probably see specific details in what I see as a sweepin...
by Nacon
Sun Jul 14, 2013 4:08 pm
Forum: New World
Topic: Hueyatlaco: Anomolies and Orthodoxy
Replies: 42
Views: 17810

Re: Hueyatlaco: Anomolies and Orthodoxy

Hi Nacon You understood my response OK -- I just cited a bad example without checking further into it. :? As to your personal observation: Were such postulated sites as Calico or Hueyatlaco to be eventually confirmed, such confirmations would not necessarily indicate "yo-yo" evolution. This is one ...
by Nacon
Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:51 pm
Forum: New World
Topic: Hueyatlaco: Anomolies and Orthodoxy
Replies: 42
Views: 17810

Re: Hueyatlaco: Anomolies and Orthodoxy

And refreshing objectivity. For once. IOW, nobody really knows. The observation that preceded the link, I think, stands unaffected. My apologies for not fully understanding your response. As to the "spheres", these have been clearly demonstrated to be of natural origin. As to your personal observat...
by Nacon
Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:24 pm
Forum: New World
Topic: Hueyatlaco: Anomolies and Orthodoxy
Replies: 42
Views: 17810

Re: Hueyatlaco: Anomolies and Orthodoxy

It then necessarily accomodates a series of regressions and progressions in the same line of what now isn't development toward an outcome. "Evolution" that happens in a Yo-Yo trajectory is pretty hard to reconcile with the idea of gradual, (punctuated), incremental advance from simple to complex --...
by Nacon
Tue May 21, 2013 5:19 pm
Forum: New World
Topic: Mississippi Embayment/Bolide Astrobleme
Replies: 233
Views: 58025

Re: Mississippi Embayment/Bolide Astrobleme

Where have I confused 'topography' and 'stratigraphy'? It is YOU that apparently does not understand either! Given that psychological analysis is not a one of my fields of personal expertise, any responses to what has devolved into incoherent ramblings that reflect a notably ill-informed understand...
by Nacon
Tue May 21, 2013 4:57 pm
Forum: New World
Topic: Mississippi Embayment/Bolide Astrobleme
Replies: 233
Views: 58025

Re: Mississippi Embayment/Bolide Astrobleme

E.P. Apologies for the duplication. INTCAL 09 can be sourced at the below: http://researchcommons.waikato.ac.nz/bitstream/handle/10289/3622/Hogg%20Intcal09%20and%20Marine09.pdf As to the initial figure, this comes from a website that is not necessarily known for credibility (bibliotec). One of the ...
by Nacon
Sun May 19, 2013 4:23 pm
Forum: New World
Topic: Mississippi Embayment/Bolide Astrobleme
Replies: 233
Views: 58025

Re: Mississippi Embayment/Bolide Astrobleme

The NMFZ and the Embayment, due to their rather unique properties, have been the subject of many decades of qualified research and are surprisingly well understood. I believe this statement shows your inability to understand facts. The NMSZ is NOT "well understood". No one is even sure what produce...