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Postby circumspice » Sun Aug 11, 2019 8:29 pm

*big gusty sigh*

I've been downloading various publications about ancient Egypt lately to supplement the sparse info available through the popular media. (never the most reliable sources anyway) What really irritates me is that there is virtually no concensus. On any subject. *argh!!!*

So anyway, I've been reading up on the so called Amarna period & its immediate aftermath. One 'fact' struck me as odd. Remember the Tutankhamun Family Genetic project? (Zahi Hawass's pet project) The study unequivocally stated that the Younger Lady was the mother of Tut's female fetuses, along with Tut being the father. This would probably indicate that she was his only 'known' wife Ankhesenamun... right? It also identified KV55 unequivocally as Akhenaten/Amenhotep IV & the father of Tut... They also went a step further to identify KV55 as the son of Amenhotep III... Which fits neatly in the genealogy of the Tutmosid family in general. Still following?

In two of the publications that I read, the mummy Younger Lady, identified as the mother of Tut's stillborn daughters, was said to have zero genetic relationship to KV55... Therefore, she can't be Tut's half sister Ankhesenamun, one of 6 'known' daughters of Akhenaten & Nefertiti... Nowhere in any other publication that I've read makes that statement. So... I'm guessing that Tut had more wives/consorts than the only 'known' wife. That would make perfect sense. He's a king. He needs an heir & a few spares keep the dynasty viable. It's been nearly a decade since that genetic info was released. Why hasn't the popular media picked up on it? Huh?

And... Those two publications also stated that the resolution of the genetic study on Tut's family was course & open to large errors.

"A match of only five alleles does not prove any conclusive close family relationship. The data published by Hawass et al. gives only eight autosomal STR markers (Hawass et al., 2010)."


The paper went on to say that 10 markers are required to establish familial relationships in the UK & 13 markers are required in the US...

*face palm*

Is there any other freely available info out there? I wish that the Egyptian government would have allowed an outside lab to do a double blind on the study... I'd love to see how Svante Paabo would have handled it.
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Re: Huh?

Postby kbs2244 » Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:43 pm

Sorry to be the one to beak this news
But the "popular media" only prints what sells
That means a subject must have a lot of popular interest.
Evidently not many other people share your interest.

This sounds more like a thesis subject.

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Re: Huh?

Postby circumspice » Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:59 am

No... It's already a done deal, a completed study. It was completed in 2010. The Egyptian government will not allow any DNA testing or genetic studies outside the country because they believe that any outside testing will conclude that ancient Egyptians are closely related to Jews. They refuse to let that happen. They refuse to acknowledge that semitic peoples have lived in that region & mixed with other peoples for millennia. It's kind of like Japanese genealogists who are hired to do a genealogical study of a family (prior to a marriage) to 'prove' that they are not tainted with Ainu blood...
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Re: Huh?

Postby kbs2244 » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:18 pm

I did not know that
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