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Cleopatra's Tomb to Be

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:27 pm
by Minimalist
drained and opened.

Zahi loves a good headline!

http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Cu ... 2103859346
Cairo, 24 April(AKI) - Archaeologists have revealed plans to uncover the 2000 year-old tomb of ancient Egypt's most famous lovers, Cleopatra and the Roman general Mark Antony later this year.

Zahi Hawass, prominent archaeologist and director of Egypt's superior council for antiquities announced a proposal to test the theory that the couple were buried together.

He discussed the project in Cairo at a media conference about the ancient pharaohs.

Hawass said that the remains of the legendary Egyptian queen and her Roman lover, Mark Antony, were inside a temple called Tabusiris Magna, 30 kilometres from the port city of Alexandria in northern Egypt.

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:16 pm
by Beagle
Good deal. If the tomb is intact there should be a lot of history to be discovered. I'll bet she was murdered on Octavian;s order rather than the suicide story we've heard. As well as Ceasar's child. I guess we'll see.

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:31 pm
by Rokcet Scientist
A classical king's drama รก la Shakespeare or an ordinary soap story like the Bold and the Beautiful avant la lettre.
Is there a difference?

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:55 pm
by Minimalist
I'll bet she was murdered on Octavian;s order rather than the suicide story we've heard.

I don't think so. Octavian sailed back to Rome to celebrate his triumph. As with Caesar, the ritual execution of a defeated enemy (Vercingetorix, in Caesar's case) would have been a highlight of the triumph. If Octavian had Cleopatra so close that he could murder her he would have been able to drag her back to Rome in chains to be strangled before the mob.

Great theater.

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:06 pm
by Beagle
Yes, but I think it was more about Ceasarian, the boy. He was Ceasar's son. Octavian was his nephew. The boy was a real threat to his ambitions.

This theory has been out there, I didn't come up with it myself. Anyway, it seems that we'll get a chance to find out. 8)

I'm gone.

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:38 pm
by Minimalist
Incorrect, though. Caesar adopted Octavian and named him in his will. It makes a nice story but Caesarion had no standing among the Romans...and Egypt was a 4th rate power.
Augustus was born at Rome with the name Gaius Octavius Thurinus. His father, also Gaius Octavius, came from a respectable but undistinguished family of the equestrian order and was governor of Macedonia before his death in 58 BC. More importantly, his mother Atia was the niece of Rome's greatest general and de facto ruler, Julius Caesar. Caesar, who had no legitimate children, took his grand-nephew soldiering in Spain, and adopted him by testament as his heir.
http://www.economicexpert.com/a/Caesar:Augustus.html

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:24 am
by Beagle
Caesar adopted Octavian and named him in his will.
Hmm....I didn't know this. I guess they are going into the tomb in November. It should be interesting. Thanks Min.

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:01 am
by Minimalist
Oh yeah...just watch the HBO series on ROME and you learn all of this stuff!

:D

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:11 am
by Beagle
I watched a few episodes but I wasn't able to keep up with it. Maybe they'll rerun the series one day, when I don't have anything conflicting with it.

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:14 am
by Minimalist
Now you'll know what to look for! Aside from Atia climbing out of the bath.

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:33 am
by Beagle
Minimalist wrote:Now you'll know what to look for! Aside from Atia climbing out of the bath.
Damn - I missed that too. :(

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:53 am
by Minimalist
You can get the series on DVD from Netflix.

Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 4:02 am
by Rokcet Scientist
Minimalist wrote:You can get the series on DVD from Netflix.
Not from you via Podmailing.com...?

Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 7:32 pm
by Minimalist
Actually Netflix is a magnificent service.

netflix.com