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Skull Cult at Gobekli Tepe?

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Re: Skull Cult at Gobekli Tepe?

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Re: Skull Cult at Gobekli Tepe?

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Re: Skull Cult at Gobekli Tepe?

Postby E.P. Grondine » Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:58 pm

I will continue to use "henge" as it is popularly understood:

Henge = a large stone or wooden post set in astronomical alignment.

As in the "woodhenge" at Cahokia, etc.

I do not know if I will even footnote your objections to the use of the word "henge" in this way. 8)

Finally, the central pillars in the enclosures at Gobekli Tepe appear to be henges,
as is shown on the inscribed plaque.
But we'll have to see if this holds with the recovery of more artifacts.
When more are found, we can return to this discussion then. :evil: :twisted:
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Re: Skull Cult at Gobekli Tepe?

Postby Tiompan » Fri Jul 21, 2017 12:12 am

You use what ever definition you like ,if you happen to be discussing henges with anyone with any knowledge of the subject anywhere ,including in the US ,you will either cause confusion or be corrected , if you stick to your wilfully ignorant definition .


We appreciate that you are incapable of accepting facts that don't fit into your world view ,and we can't teach an old dog new tricks ,or as it appears even old tricks .

Simply ,your definition is wrong .
It has actually become even more wrong . The central pillars at GT are obviously not henges .That is yet another of your fantasies .
Even the alt nuts wouldn't make such an error .
Look at the pics .The plaques do no not show "pillars" , your fantasy is based on approx nine light incisions ,which could be interpreted as anything you like .
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Re: Skull Cult at Gobekli Tepe?

Postby E.P. Grondine » Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:42 am

good afternoon, tiompan -

If and when someone in the US raises the issue, I'll discuss it with them.

In the meantrme I'll continue to use the common working definition here.

As far as the inscribed plaques go, I've given you my best estimate.
The same goes for the orientation of the pillars.

I have never been the type of person to let theory interfere with data. :twisted:
If you want to show that the Holocene Start Impacts did not occur,
the burden of proving that is now on you. :evil:
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Re: Skull Cult at Gobekli Tepe?

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Re: Skull Cult at Gobekli Tepe?

Postby E.P. Grondine » Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:08 pm

Tiompan -

The data is what it is.

What I have given you is the functional definition of word "henge" as it is commonly used.

Q.E.D.

Now instead of abuse, why don't you provide all of us
with the word you use to label a large stone or wooden post set in astronomical alignment?
That is, if you have one.
If you don't, then say so.
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Re: Skull Cult at Gobekli Tepe?

Postby Tiompan » Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:01 am

E.P. ,
Here are 2 versions of your "definitions " . 1)“Henge = a large stone or wooden post set in astronomical alignment.“ 2)"Either stones or wooden posts set up in a circle, with those elements set up in astronomical alignments. “.
Note the disparity ? Probably not . 1) is singular with no reference to the rest of the alignment whether it has one or more components set in a line or circle .2)is plural and only circular meaning that there can only be two components for any one alignment .That is not functional . They differ and there are terms for the components in each case . More to the point ,neither is the definition of a henge .
The most common term for a circular monument of posts is usually timber circle ,similarly for stone ,it would be stone circle ( although ,like henges , there are many different types).Single posts are just that stones are standing stones /menhir .
See below for context .They may be found within or surrounding henges but they are not the henge .
What I gave you years ago was the correct definition of Henge . That you have wilfully continued to use the wrong and even differing definitions of the term is your problem .
It is also ours , in that your continued evasion of the fact wastes space and time .


That you don't know the terminology associated with markers or indicators in putative or possibly genuine archaeoastronmical alignments is telling .
Maybe if you had actually read some Thom instead of making up nonsense like ""by the way, the Thom's hypothesis about the henges is now established doctrine",
you might have learnt some of the terminology and be capable of responding meaningfully .
Fwiw it depends on context , two terms were used above ,others are backsight and foresight .
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Re: Skull Cult at Gobekli Tepe?

Postby E.P. Grondine » Sat Jul 22, 2017 8:25 am

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Re: Skull Cult at Gobekli Tepe?

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Re: Skull Cult at Gobekli Tepe?

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Re: Skull Cult at Gobekli Tepe?

Postby E.P. Grondine » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:58 am

tiompan, now that you've satisfied yourself as to how stupid I am, here's my response - a footnote:

"footnote #) While "Henge used to be limited to a Neolithic or Bronze Age monument of the British Isles, consisting of a circular bank or ditch enclosing, variously, stone or timber uprights, burial pits, etc. or a circular area, often containing a circle of stones or sometimes wooden posts, dating from the Neolithic and Bronze Ages, in modern usagethe word “Henge is generally used to refer to a large stone or wooden post set in astronomical alignment."

I offer this footnote for free usage under creative commons, so either Collins or Hancock may use it, or anyone else, for that matter.

This reminds me of the crap I got about my use of the term "homo heidelbergensis" when I first published "Man and Impact in the Americas".
At that time in the footnotes I pointed out the lack of a common term among the physical anthropologists to refer to the early robust erectus which emigrated out of Afica, as well as their general lack of agreement on terms.

Since you make mention of the remains on the Nabta Plateau,
please note also that I used the term "henge" to describel the Yuchi "henge" reported in contact accounts.

As I've already shown you that your definition of "henge" does not hold in the Americas
would you please take this up with the other people working here instead of wasting my own time?

I am more interested in the find spots of the plaques in the GT region,
and later Near Eastern constellation systems.
But all in all, as Fletcher and myself have our hands full with site surveys,
if anyone wants us to analyze GT then they'll have to pay for it.
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