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Archaeologica.org • View topic - Arboreal phase near Gobekli Tepe
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Re: Arboreal phase near Gobekli Tepe

PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:24 pm
by circumspice

Re: Arboreal phase near Gobekli Tepe

PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 5:06 am
by Simon21

Re: Arboreal phase near Gobekli Tepe

PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:25 am
by E.P. Grondine
http://rstb.royalsocietypublishing.org/ ... 5/20160429

Which in turn leads to the question of the date of the discovery of alcohol in all those regions.

Re: Arboreal phase near Gobekli Tepe

PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:31 am
by E.P. Grondine

Re: Arboreal phase near Gobekli Tepe

PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:36 am
by E.P. Grondine

Re: Arboreal phase near Gobekli Tepe

PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:16 am
by Tiompan

Re: Arboreal phase near Gobekli Tepe

PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:05 am
by E.P. Grondine

Re: Arboreal phase near Gobekli Tepe

PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:31 am
by Tiompan

Re: Arboreal phase near Gobekli Tepe

PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 4:07 pm
by Minimalist
Perhaps someone figured out that the peanut was indigenous to South America, realized the story was bullshit, and pulled it?

Re: Arboreal phase near Gobekli Tepe

PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:58 am
by E.P. Grondine
New site summary:

http://popular-archaeology.com/issue/fa ... gious-site

I think that a climate controlled inflatable structure may be what they need.

Once again, nuts seem to have played a major role in their diet.

Re: Arboreal phase near Gobekli Tepe

PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:07 am
by Simon21
An interesting site, pity about the wild speculation. If no one can be definitive about whether there was a settlement of some kind it indicates an enormous amount of work remains to be done.

Re: Arboreal phase near Gobekli Tepe

PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:56 pm
by Minimalist

Re: Arboreal phase near Gobekli Tepe

PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 3:08 am
by Tiompan
Reminiscent of EP's fantasy and the Jerf el Ahmar plaques , even down to the explanation .
See viewtopic.php?f=10&t=3855&p=73945&hilit=munn#p73945
or
Tiompan wrote:
One of the classics of Australian symbolism is Nancy D .Munn’s “Walibiri Iconography: Graphic Representation and cultural symbolism in a cenrtral Australian society “ The arcs ,which are found in nearly all areas where rock art is to be found usually represent actors , often human but they can be animals e.g. oppossums , the dots can represent head as she suggests or increase i.e. plularity . Exactly the same symbol complete with ethnographic explanation and with no possibility of the the interpretation being the Draconids . Arcs and dots are some of the basic forms used world wide in rock art and symbols ,they can represent many things depending on the culture that is doing the representing .
the point is that you can make up any old BS and suggest what you like but some things are going to be much less likely than others. . “
“We have been over the interpretation of these markings before ,as is often the case the “interpretation”, like a rorschach test ,
tells us more about the personal obsessions of the interpreter than the actual markings ."

It is worth noting that Australia is one of few areas where we have any direct link to information regarding mythologies related to engravings /paintings .
It is also the place where rock art researchers are most reluctant to provide “interpretations “ and when they do , they place them in quotes .

Re: Arboreal phase near Gobekli Tepe

PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:21 am
by Simon21
Attempting to give a certain definition to symbols thousands of years after the culture that produced them is self-obviously a fool's errand.

As is over-jargonising in an attempt to boost one's credibility. "Arboreal phase" what does that mean? A mad desire to grow shrubberies, pace Monty Python and the knights of Ni?

Re: Arboreal phase near Gobekli Tepe

PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:51 am
by E.P. Grondine
Hi simon -

You have to remember that in North America, cultures based on nut use emerged long before those based on domesticated crops.
As a matter of fact, the nut use probably allowed a sedentary lifestyle wherein crops were domesticated.

Attempting to tell you or tiompan that two comet fragments hit at the start of the Holocene is probably a fool's errand.
But those who actually work in the field of impact studies have no problem with it.