Good morning, Simon -
Simon, as you are the one who made the bonehead comments about the use of stone tools in metalworking,
it would appear your comments about my knowledge of it are entirely without foundation.
You have also demonstrated absolutely no interest in the metal deposits themselves.
I think it would help if you could possibly read with comnprehension. The comments of using stone tools to make intricate metalwork are yours.
I sent you a doc proving the existence of Saxon goldsmiths. You of course did not read it.
Bling makes for the best plunder.
Ah so these are discerning plunderers are they? You just make yourself more foolish with each post. Did they use jewelleers monacles? You think raiders are very careful about what they take? So what of the non supreme items?
Your beliefs it has to be said are extraordinary in their ignorance.
Once again, there were multiple raids taking place over a long period of time.
You have shown no interest in parsing them out.
Oh so the Scots didn't learn did they? Ha ha you get funnier with every post.
And here's the thing me bonny bawbee did you know the people of Scotland were inclined to a bit of raiding too? Why did they not take their pieces back?
You may know where the finished pieces were found,
but what I am interested in is where they were made.
That's easy they were largely made by Anglo Saxon jewellers (the bowls at Sutton Hoo were made in Syria) as every book will tell you.
This is known because we know where the materials came from, we know the styles and designs favoured by the Germanic peoples of Europe. We even know the famnous Kent brooches were inspired by Frankish designs.
Everyone knows this except you. Why is that you think?
Perhaps another captive like Patrick, but I really do not know nor care.
Those are problems you are working on.
I have a minor interest in the Cruit, not the Anglo Saxons.
No you don't know You have no idea and no knowledge except a pretend knowledge of Pictish which you do not speak or understand.
Actually, my interest is in PIE.
And now impact events.
Really? I wouldn't say that. Someone who foolishly dismisses a whole ethnic culture stretching for over 600 years can be said to have more than a partial interest.
Let me run this by you again.
Wool irritates my skin, unless very fine wool.
Scotch whiskey is too sweet for my tastes, and I really do not know good mixers for it.
I never learned to play golf.
As far as field work goes, I'd rather be troweling through tsunami deposits on Crete,
or doing field surveys in SW Turkey,.
No I don't think so. This asinine belief that the Scots are responsible for all A/s jewellery despite the evidence is pretty demonstrative.
And would you be welcome in Turkey or do you beleive they stole all their treasures from Greece? or Egypt or the Picts.
Once again I warn you against espousing such wacky theories in front of some Turkish people (the Greeks are not fond of people who insult their culture and heritage too).
I never said that.
And I didn't say I was quoting you. I am simply trying to understand Grondism
Once again, there were multiple raids on multiple locations taking place over a long period of time.
The plunder was also handed down as heirlooms.
Ah I see but where are these locations? Why does the jewellery have a definite Germanic style as is found in the Continent? And did not the Scots do some raiding?
And why would the A/S and Irish refuse to make jewellery? There was far more gold in England than Scotland. Religious reasons
You can now hopefully see how idiotic you view is. And it is of course supported by no evidence whatsoever - Grondism indeed.
Your setting up of strawmen and then insulting them is an interesting behavior.
Nearly as funny as tiompan going on about the definition of Henge for 3 years.
You are responsible for you own words.
I never said that the Anglo Saxons did not have ships.
Yes but according to the Grondine doctrine "no workshops no objects". You apparently beleive because we have not unearthed a A/S Tiffany's there is no such thing as A/S jewellery, so the same theory applies to boats, we have unearthed no bosatyards so therefore....This is where Grondism leads you.
As a matter of fact, I have specifically asked you for information about the Baltic garnet sources,
as I expect there will be ship workshops found nearby
But according to the Grondine theory no boatyards discovered, no manufacture, so the boats must have been stolen.
This will open your eyes about Sutton Hoo
And do read:
https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/sutton ... utton-hoo-
Which points out the garnets originatd as gemstones in Sri Lanka whence they were traded to Britain through the North Atlantic/Baltic trade routes.
Unless you beleive the A/S raided Ceylon?
Not a word about Scotland I am afraid. Zilch, de nada, another Grondine tower bites the dust.
I know you won't of can't read this material but hope springs eternal.
Those ships allowed for the rapid appearance of large raiding forces at one spot.
Too fast for the local people to organize their own forces to defend themselves.
Is that so? And the local people (who they) didn't organise themselves even after generations?
Oh and how to tell you this but England and Scotland are on the same island. You do not have to sail to Scotland from England or vice versa to raid.
Under the earlier Empire, there would have been genocidal raids on the places those raids came from.
But then the Empire had wasted their resources in internecine struggles for the office of Emperor.
Fascinating and can you possibly name these raids on the Frisian and German and danish coasts? Haven't heard of any myself.
My new pamphlet is back from the printers,
with a major new site of importance to the tourist industry here in Ohio.
My little "vacation" is at an end,
and we have about 3 new sites requiring field survey.
Yes well take my advice stick to your pamphlets etc and leave the big questions to those prepared to invest the time in studying the subject.
Simon, if you can't provide pointers to those Baltic garnet sources,
I am quite willing to let you go around in circles,
trying to coax more out of those text materials which have been thoroughly worked through.
I think we have reached the limits of Grondism - ignore the evidence, rely on wild supposition and predjudice. How do you "thoroughly work through?" a 5th century text? Like you work through an Ohio cess pit? These are historical texts they are never "worked through". New insights are gained with study and more discoveries.
One presumes in Ohio that as soon as someone has read a historical document they throw it away.
Explains a lot.
It appears you are incapable of working through any texts which are more complex.
This coming from someone who cannot read any texts apparently.
YES, THIS IS A F*****G SEAL, AND THERE WERE NONE OF THEM IN GAUL OR GERMANIA
AT THE TIME THIS PIECE WAS CRAFTED-