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Ancient Boating

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2018 6:11 pm
by Cognito
The following 700,000 year old discovery on Luzon in the Philippines is interesting since it screams H. erectus and boats. See: https://news.nationalgeographic.com/201 ... s-science/

Even in the depths of each glaciation when sea levels were 120-130 meters lower, the channels that needed to be crossed were still a maritime barrier. Reference the following maps of the area: http://sciox.org/maps-of-pleistocene-se ... asia.html#

Boats, rafts, whatever it took to get there. These people had a level of sophistication. :D

Re: Ancient Boating

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2018 6:42 pm
by circumspice

Re: Ancient Boating

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 8:33 am
by E.P. Grondine
Now we get down to the details.

A raft wold have required either rope or leather straps to tie the logs together.
If they used ropes, what would show up in the archaeological record?
If they used straps, then you would find stone tools for cutting up the hides in strips.

On the other hand, a dugout requires only an axe and fire to make.

Re: Ancient Boating

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 10:27 am
by circumspice

Re: Ancient Boating

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 11:53 am
by Minimalist

Re: Ancient Boating

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2018 8:41 am
by E.P. Grondine

Re: Ancient Boating

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2018 1:09 pm
by circumspice

Re: Ancient Boating

PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2018 2:38 pm
by kbs2244

Re: Ancient Boating

PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2018 8:57 pm
by circumspice

Re: Ancient Boating

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 3:45 am
by circumspice

Re: Ancient Boating

PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2018 4:55 pm
by Simon21
There may be something to the Tsunami theory. I beleive in the United States in the 19th century a young girl and her very annoying dog (given a swahili name for some unknown reason) were swept up in a tornado and landed somewhere mysterious. A film was made of it featuring, again for reasons known only to god, a young actress who was required to compress her bust. If it works for tornadoes in Arkansas or wherever why not for Tsunamis, both are about as likely.

Re: Ancient Boating

PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2018 8:10 pm
by Cognito

Re: Ancient Boating

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 2:08 am
by circumspice

Re: Ancient Boating

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 2:49 am
by Simon21
I think Kansas is right. Wherever it was I remember being told how curious it was that a girl in this area and time should know swahili - I am speaking of decades ago. What is intersting is that Swahili is of course spoken on the east Coast of Africa and as I understand it most africans taken to America spoke West Coast languages.

Of course things are never completely clear cut so it is possible one presumes that some speakers did end up there and a bit of their language survived. I

Re: Ancient Boating

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 7:28 pm
by circumspice