Poor Bastards Can't Catch A Break

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Poor Bastards Can't Catch A Break

Postby Minimalist » Sun May 19, 2019 1:17 pm

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-48328793

Egypt explosion: Tourists on bus injured near Giza pyramids


An explosion targeting a tourist bus has injured at least 16 people near the Grand Egyptian Museum, next to the pyramids in Giza.

South African tourists are among the injured. Most of those hurt suffered minor injuries, while three were treated in hospital, officials say.

A device went off close to the museum fence as the bus was passing.

It is not yet known who was behind the bombing but Islamist militants have attacked tourists in Egypt in the past.

In December, three Vietnamese tourists and a local tour guide were killed after a roadside bomb hit their bus.


Egyptian officials hurried to confirm everything is under control. No life-threatening injuries, all the wounded in a stable condition, and no damage caused to the strategic tourist site. They wanted to send a clear message of assurance.

But it's the second explosion in nearly six months near Egypt's most important landmark, the Great Pyramids, and once again questions are raised about how adequate security measures are in such a strategic location.


Even on the West Bank the Jews and Palestinians agree on the desirability of sucking money out of gullible tourists. Apparently the Muslim Brotherhood hasn't gotten the message.
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Re: Poor Bastards Can't Catch A Break

Postby circumspice » Mon May 20, 2019 3:58 pm

Somebody wants to destabilize the economy & the current government to the extent that it can be taken over by whomever is strong enough. It seems like some group may be trying to establish a caliphate in Egypt. If you cut off access to necessary funds, you can topple any government you wish. Probably some group of fundamentalist extremists. Will Egypt's allies will stand behind them or just let them fall? I wouldn't want to be an Egyptian citizen during times like these. In these days & times, is the Suez canal as strategicly important as it once was? I'm trying to figure out what there is to gain from deposing the current Egyptian government.
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Re: Poor Bastards Can't Catch A Break

Postby kbs2244 » Tue May 21, 2019 1:22 pm

"is the Suez canal as strategicly important as it once was? "
Even more so.

The amount of ocean shipping going on is vastly under rated by the general public

This site gives a min by min update of that traffic

https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/ho ... 3.6/zoom:3

Note the back-up at each end of the Suez as well as the number of ships going through the Med without stopping. They are on their way to Germany and Holland.

Blocking the Canal would have a world wide effect.
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Re: Poor Bastards Can't Catch A Break

Postby Minimalist » Wed May 22, 2019 9:15 am

Absolutely. What has not changed since antiquity is that shipping by sea is the cheapest way to send large quantities of goods.


This article is 13 years old.

https://www.americanshipper.com/news/ne ... nfrom=left

New Maersk ship too big for enlarged Panama Canal



Suez will not have that problem...... for a while.
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Re: Poor Bastards Can't Catch A Break

Postby kbs2244 » Wed May 22, 2019 2:49 pm

In researching this I learned a new term.
"Air draft" or max height.
A dimension set by surface to bottom of a bridge.

BTW there is a "Suezmax"
It is set by both water and air draft limits.
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Re: Poor Bastards Can't Catch A Break

Postby Minimalist » Sat May 25, 2019 8:34 am

Also it now seems that a bridge has been built over Suez which does put a cap on how high a ship can tower above the waterline and still get underneath it.

If the ship builders can't live with that limitation they can always go back to sailing around Africa.
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Re: Poor Bastards Can't Catch A Break

Postby Simon21 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:49 am

Minimalist wrote:https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-48328793

Egypt explosion: Tourists on bus injured near Giza pyramids


An explosion targeting a tourist bus has injured at least 16 people near the Grand Egyptian Museum, next to the pyramids in Giza.

South African tourists are among the injured. Most of those hurt suffered minor injuries, while three were treated in hospital, officials say.

A device went off close to the museum fence as the bus was passing.

It is not yet known who was behind the bombing but Islamist militants have attacked tourists in Egypt in the past.

In December, three Vietnamese tourists and a local tour guide were killed after a roadside bomb hit their bus.


Egyptian officials hurried to confirm everything is under control. No life-threatening injuries, all the wounded in a stable condition, and no damage caused to the strategic tourist site. They wanted to send a clear message of assurance.

But it's the second explosion in nearly six months near Egypt's most important landmark, the Great Pyramids, and once again questions are raised about how adequate security measures are in such a strategic location.


Even on the West Bank the Jews and Palestinians agree on the desirability of sucking money out of gullible tourists. Apparently the Muslim Brotherhood hasn't gotten the message.
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Yeah isn't it odd that installing a psycho General and his corrupt gang in power, arresting the democractic government and pronouncing Egyptians were some sub form of humanity, not fit for democracy has a negative effect?. Apparently virginity tests are again being used by the police and even an english tourist has been tortured to death.
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Re: Poor Bastards Can't Catch A Break

Postby Simon21 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:59 am

circumspice wrote:Somebody wants to destabilize the economy & the current government to the extent that it can be taken over by whomever is strong enough. It seems like some group may be trying to establish a caliphate in Egypt. If you cut off access to necessary funds, you can topple any government you wish. Probably some group of fundamentalist extremists. Will Egypt's allies will stand behind them or just let them fall? I wouldn't want to be an Egyptian citizen during times like these. In these days & times, is the Suez canal as strategicly important as it once was? I'm trying to figure out what there is to gain from deposing the current Egyptian government.
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Oh well one thing might be the removal of a brutal sadistic gang of psychos who routinely torture and kill to stay in power. Egpytian corruption (paid largely by the EU and US) is beyong all bounds and vast numbers of Egyptians languish in desperate poverty held down by a tyrannical bunch of killers.

Of course one answer might be to let the Egyptian people have a vote and genuinely choose their leaders and stop treating them as sub-humans, racially unfit for democracy (as one former Israeli amabassor clamined). Yes they may vote for someone the US EU and Israel do not like, but does anyone suggest the US military should remove Trump as the US has shown itself incapable of electing good leaders?

The treatment of the Egyptian people by the West over the decades has been sickening and it is only a matter of time before the country explodes. Even SA is now permitted to have free elections, not Egypt.
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Re: Poor Bastards Can't Catch A Break

Postby Minimalist » Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:53 pm

but does anyone suggest the US military should remove Trump as the US has shown itself incapable of electing good leaders?



It's worth considering.
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Re: Poor Bastards Can't Catch A Break

Postby Simon21 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:41 pm

If they had the time they could send a few marines to get rid of the UK government as well. Wouldn't take many the Government is trying to destroy itself.
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