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This Might Upset a Few Applecarts

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Re: This Might Upset a Few Applecarts

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Re: This Might Upset a Few Applecarts

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Re: This Might Upset a Few Applecarts

Postby Digit » Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:21 pm

There's nothing wrong with a strong central government, just so long as it is 'government of the people, by the people, for the people.'
Which ours fails on a number of accounts I fear.

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Re: This Might Upset a Few Applecarts

Postby Minimalist » Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:26 pm

Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.

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Re: This Might Upset a Few Applecarts

Postby Digit » Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:31 pm

I didn't say that 'Honest Abe' meant it Min, after all, he was a politician, but as a definition of democracy it takes some beating I reckon.

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Re: This Might Upset a Few Applecarts

Postby Minimalist » Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:54 pm

It was a democracy at the time, where only free, white, 21 and over males were allowed to vote. The Greeks would have approved!
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Re: This Might Upset a Few Applecarts

Postby jw1815 » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:22 pm

Yes, the Greeks would have approved.

But, I agree that it's a good definition of democracy. The American founders weren't gods or saints. They were flawed human beings. They compromised on the issue of slavery when writing the Constitution, knowing full well that they had only delayed the issue. I don't remember the quote verbatim, but Abigail Adams said that they'd left the seeds of discontent and division for future generations to resolve.

That they accomplished as much as they did in one generation is just short of a miracle. At least they gave us a principle for future generations to live up to in correcting the wrongs they left unresolved.
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