Oh Horrors! We Are Descended From Neat Freaks!

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Oh Horrors! We Are Descended From Neat Freaks!

Post by Minimalist » Sun Dec 20, 2009 9:17 am

I find this somewhat disturbing.


http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi/co ... 009/1218/3
"A tidy house, a tidy mind." Some of the more slovenly among us might bristle at this scolding old proverb, but to human evolution researchers it makes perfect sense. One of the hallmarks of modern behavior is the sophisticated way Homo sapiens organizes the spaces it lives in, with everything in its place. But new work at a nearly 800,000-year-old hominin site in Israel suggests that the roots of tidiness may lie deep in our evolutionary past.


As one of the "slovenly" I am indeed "bristling!"
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Re: Oh Horrors! We Are Descended From Neat Freaks!

Post by Digit » Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:56 pm

You and my son would get on well Min! :lol:

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Post by Minimalist » Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:25 pm

It's bad enough that my wife is feeling all proud of herself.......
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Post by Digit » Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:16 pm

Big Ah! :lol:

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Post by Minimalist » Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:46 pm

Really. I thought she had copyrighted the " do you think the MAID is going to pick your socks up?" speech. Then I found out that they all have the same routine.
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.

-- George Carlin

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Post by Rokcet Scientist » Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:52 am

Minimalist wrote:
" do you think the MAID is going to pick your socks up?"
Hasn't she shown up yet then...? :shock:

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Post by Minimalist » Wed Dec 23, 2009 6:23 pm

A follow up to the original story.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 130025.htm
Analysis of the spatial distribution of the findings there reveals a pattern of specific areas in which various activities were carried out. This kind of designation indicates a formalized conceptualization of living space, requiring social organization and communication between group members. Such organizational skills are thought to be unique to modern humans.

Attempts until now to trace the origins of such behavior at various prehistoric sites in the world have concentrated on spatial analyses of Middle Paleolithic sites, where activity areas, particularly those associated with hearths, have been found dating back only to some 250,000 years ago.

The new Hebrew University study, a report on which is published in Science magazine, describes an Acheulian (an early stone tools culture) layer at Gesher Benot Ya'aqov that has been dated to about 750,000 years ago. The evidence found there consists of numerous stone tools, animal bones and a rich collection of botanical remains.
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.

-- George Carlin

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Post by Rokcet Scientist » Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:08 pm

Until they find Dmanisi Man's daddy, passing through on his conquest of the world, I'm not impressed. HE was already in Beijing by 750,000 BP...
Those at Gesher Benot Ya'aqov must have been stragglers and laggards. They're still hanging around there.

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Post by Minimalist » Thu Dec 24, 2009 8:03 am

They're still hanging around there.

No...no, they were still organizing!

The slobs, the mover and shakers of HE society, had already moved on to the next frontier.
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.

-- George Carlin

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