Seafaring HE vs. Megalodon

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Seafaring HE vs. Megalodon

Postby Rokcet Scientist » Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:29 pm

Meganthropus Paleojavanicus – an HE subspecies – and the Carcharodon Megalodon super-shark were contemporaries. IF Java was well separated from the SE Asian continental plate, as some maintain, MP would have had to deal with CM's habitat. Their meeting could have been the source for the tale of Jonah.

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One wonders what remains of Carcharodon Megalodon, besides teeth, could ever have been found since their, and other sharks' skeletons totally consist of very perishable cartilage. Not bone.
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Re: Seafaring HE vs. Megalodon

Postby Digit » Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:58 am

Or perhaps they used boats!Image

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Re: Seafaring HE vs. Megalodon

Postby Rokcet Scientist » Fri Nov 26, 2010 6:21 pm

Digit wrote:Or perhaps they used boats!Image


Carcharodon Megalodon ate boats... 8)
That's probably why it went extinct: it starved for lack of boats! :lol:
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Re: Seafaring HE vs. Megalodon

Postby Minimalist » Fri Nov 26, 2010 7:10 pm

They could pretty much eat whatever they wanted, I imagine.


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Re: Seafaring HE vs. Megalodon

Postby Digit » Sat Nov 27, 2010 4:05 am

According to Sartono et al the remains of Meganthropus Paleojavanicus in SE Asia post date Megalodon's extinction, so there was little danger of being eaten by one I think.

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Re: Seafaring HE vs. Megalodon

Postby Rokcet Scientist » Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:15 pm

Digit wrote:According to Sartono et al the remains of Meganthropus Paleojavanicus in SE Asia post date Megalodon's extinction, so there was little danger of being eaten by one I think.


My data peg MP at 1,57 MYA, and CM's extinction at 1,5 MYA. If one assumes those figures are absolute, then they overlap. Even if they are fuzzy they still overlap. Thus HE/MP and CM coexisted in time. And geographically HE/MP must have negotiated CM's habitat in order to reach Java. Which he did. All that is assuming, as you a.o. do, that Sunda Strait (already) was a deep trench separating Sumatra and Java, and that it was the first deep water that HE/MP crossed on his trek from Africa. (Sounds like reaching to me).

OR HE walked to Java (and waded occassionaly) across the dry SE Asian continental plate/plain. And Sunda Strait, Java Sea, etc., were created later as a result of tectonic/volcanic convulsions (which should surprise no one in that most active of all tectonic/volcanic areas on earth) and 400 feet risen sea levels.
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Re: Seafaring HE vs. Megalodon

Postby Digit » Sun Nov 28, 2010 4:21 am

No dispute there RS, but I suggest you check on Sartono's dating, they may have overlapped indeed, but the remains post date Megalodon's extinction.
In exactly the same manner as HE may have reached the Americas 1000s of years ago, but the dated remains say later. Got it?

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Re: Seafaring HE vs. Megalodon

Postby Rokcet Scientist » Sun Nov 28, 2010 6:58 am

Digit wrote:No dispute there RS, but I suggest you check on Sartono's dating, they may have overlapped indeed, but the remains post date Megalodon's extinction.
In exactly the same manner as HE may have reached the Americas 1000s of years ago, but the dated remains say later. Got it?


:lol: Talk about avoiding the point... :lol:
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Re: Seafaring HE vs. Megalodon

Postby Digit » Sun Nov 28, 2010 7:05 am

No I'm not. The point I was making is that the dated material post dates Megalodon's extinction, you could surmise from that, if you wish, that no crossings were sucessful untill after Megalodon went extinct.

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Re: Seafaring HE vs. Megalodon

Postby Rokcet Scientist » Sun Nov 28, 2010 7:19 am

Digit wrote:No I'm not. The point I was making is that the dated material post dates Megalodon's extinction, you could surmise from that, if you wish, that no crossings were sucessful untill after Megalodon went extinct.

I covered that with "fuzzy".
And you're still avoiding the point... :lol:
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Re: Seafaring HE vs. Megalodon

Postby Digit » Sun Nov 28, 2010 7:20 am

I seem to have missed it, not avoid it.

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