Iguanas and Vegetation Mats!

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Iguanas and Vegetation Mats!

Post by Minimalist » Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:41 am

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 155112.htm
Scientists have long puzzled over how iguanas, a group of lizards mostly found in the Americas, came to inhabit the isolated Pacific islands of Fiji and Tonga. For years, the leading explanation has been that progenitors of the island species must have rafted there, riding across the Pacific on a mat of vegetation or floating debris. But new research in the January issue of The American Naturalist suggests a more grounded explanation.
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Post by Rokcet Scientist » Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:49 am

Exactly like HE did it... they walked!

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Post by uniface » Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:10 am

Umpteen thousand years from now (if the current system is lucky) people are similarly going to be wondering how (feral) pigs came to inhabit many of these same islands. It will not occur to them that sailors seeded them as a future food reserve.

Iguanas are collected and eaten -- right ?

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Post by Minimalist » Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:30 am

Rokcet Scientist wrote:Exactly like HE did it... they walked!

To Fiji?
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Post by Rokcet Scientist » Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:35 am

uniface wrote: Iguanas are collected and eaten -- right ?
They taste like chicken.

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Post by Minimalist » Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:11 am

Rokcet Scientist wrote:
uniface wrote: Iguanas are collected and eaten -- right ?
They taste like chicken.



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Post by Digit » Fri Jan 15, 2010 3:07 pm

So Noonan and Sites tested the possibility that iguanas simply walked to the islands millions of years ago,
So how old was HE then?

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Post by Sam Salmon » Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:05 pm

The two islands, located about 2000 miles east of Australia, are home to several iguana species, and their presence there is
Not to be too didactic but there are over 300 different islands in Fiji and over 160 in the Kingdom of Tonga.

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Post by Rokcet Scientist » Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:19 pm

Digit wrote:
So Noonan and Sites tested the possibility that iguanas simply walked to the islands millions of years ago,
So how old was HE then?
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_erectus:
Homo erectus (from the Latin ērı̆gĕre, "to put up, set upright") is an extinct species of hominid that originated in Africa—and spread as far as China and Java—from the end of the Pliocene epoch to the later Pleistocene: about 1.8-.3 million years ago.

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Post by Digit » Sat Jan 16, 2010 3:58 am

And this 'land bridge' vanished when?
And evidence for HE in the Pacific?

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Post by Rokcet Scientist » Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:33 am

Digit wrote:And this 'land bridge' vanished when?
When sea levels rose, and volcanism, tectonics, and tsunamis destroyed them.
And evidence for HE in the Pacific?
Is 400 feet below sea level today, just like everywhere he went.

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Post by Digit » Sat Jan 16, 2010 8:12 am

And he left not a bit above present day coast lines?

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Post by kbs2244 » Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:46 am

Those islands are volcanic.
They stick up like bumps off the ocean floor.
The water is pretty deep around them.

Has anyone done a comparison on the age of the islands to the time frame they are talking about?
Were they even there then?

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Post by Digit » Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:50 am

Were they even there then?
That was one of the questions I was going to ask as well kb. Saved me the trouble! :)

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Post by Sam Salmon » Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:47 pm

Digit wrote:And he left not a bit above present day coast lines?.
Maybe..........

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