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Postby Minimalist » Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:01 pm

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Postby War Arrow » Thu Nov 02, 2006 5:55 am

Maybe I'm easily impressed but this
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What are the chances of setting up some sort of double blind test with someone who can't easily be argued against? I don't know if Don Crabtree is still around (and I kind of doubt it, I suppose) but someone of that calibre. Surely a couple of good identity parades with some of these finds would add a lot of weight to the argument, or at least go some way towards settling this particular avenue of enquiry?
Whilst I'm here, any more results come back from the iron-smelting thing, or did I miss that page?

Oh. And as for the assumption that I'm going to go apeshit with jpegs, I resent that accusation and would furthermore state that I find
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Postby Minimalist » Thu Nov 02, 2006 9:25 am

Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.

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Postby Minimalist » Thu Nov 02, 2006 10:50 am

Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.

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Postby Minimalist » Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:19 am

Dr. Kissin's initial paragraph implies a great deal of knowledge of iron smelting...specific temperatures, forcing air to acheive those temperatures, reducing agents, fluxing agents... that is not the kind of knowledge one acquires right off the bat. A long period of trial and error would seem to be required.

Unless, the knowledge was a legacy and these people were trying to pick up the pieces after some catastrophe and doing the best they could with the materials at hand? In other words, they knew how to make iron but found themselves forced to dig pits in the ground in order to actually produce any. As I said before, unless this was a lost party of French or Spanish explorers/traders/conquerors the idea that anyone was smelting iron in pre-Colombian times is earth-shaking.

How far is this site from the Gulf?
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