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The Merneptah Stele

Postby Minimalist » Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:55 pm

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Postby Beagle » Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:36 pm



Wiki has some more info on the stele, Min, particularly the dating. I'm reading a little about it and can't offer a useful comment right now.
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Postby Beagle » Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:59 pm

Without digging through the Bible to find what what supposedly happening in Israel in 1220 BC (the date of the stele), it seems that this is around 200 yrs. before the reign of King David. I don't believe Israel even had a king at that time.

The stele may well have been referring to a people and not a place. I'll do a little more looking.
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Postby Beagle » Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:15 pm



After reading this timeline, in which even Dever is quoted, I would say that the Merneptah Stele is probably accurate. 8)
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Postby Minimalist » Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:28 pm

The article merely notes the use of the term "Israel." But Merneptah's scribes were not writing in Hebrew...which most likely did not exist as a dialect of Canaanite for several more centuries...they were writing in Egyptian hieroglyphs.

I've seen lots of assertions about what the name "Israel" means in Hebrew. But what does it mean in Egyptian?
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Postby Minimalist » Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:34 pm

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Postby Beagle » Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:04 pm

Nevertheless, the Hyksos theory correlates very well with an exodus of sorts. Only time will tell - although probably a long time as our friend Zahi doesn't permit any "Biblical" archaeology.

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Postby Ishtar » Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:09 pm

But it does make it impossible to say whether it was a story to illustrate the moving of the Sun out of Taurus when we don't know the true date of the story and we don't know when the Hebrews knew about precession.
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Postby Minimalist » Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:46 pm

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Postby Beagle » Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:07 pm

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Postby Minimalist » Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:51 pm

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Postby Minimalist » Sat Jan 19, 2008 12:20 pm

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